Google Wifi Update: Connect Remote Units Via Ethernet / MOCA vs. Wirelessly How To

Buy it on Amazon – http://lon.tv/8761c (affiliate link) – Lots of folks were wondering if the mesh / remote Google Wifi units can connect via Ethernet. I tested mine with some MOCA adapters. See my original review: http://lon.tv/9gqzm and subscribe! http://lon.tv/s

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The remote nodes will automatically look for the main router unit via the ethernet connection. If it finds the router it disables the wireless mesh connection and extends the network via the ethernet cable. It will still allow devices to connect wirelessly, but the “backhaul” out to the main router (and Internet) is done over a much faster wired connection.

This means faster network speeds while still gaining the benefits of wireless roaming around the home.

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Comments

Robin Moran says:

Hi, awesome that you are able to find this solution with the Google WiFi.  Question, if you connect the LAN from the switch to the LAN port, can u use the Internet port as a LAN to another computer’s LAN port?

Kay De says:

I am thinking about getting the Google Wi-Fi setup but I’m not sure it will resolve my problem. In your review of the Moca product you mentioned that Verizon fios is at Moca 1.0 and does not support Moca 2.0. Will connecting the Google Wi-Fi system plus the Moca resolve this issue and give me something close to my 1gigabit of internet? Because right now I’m working with a coax connected extender that cap at 400mbps.

Joey Wood says:

Want to make sure i understand, sorry if this was already answered. Your explanation comes accross that the wifi points need to be connected to each other via ethernet. What if I connect the wifi points directly to the modem via ethernet. Is that the same thing?

DustDynasty says:

Mr. Rogers WIFI Tips

iamnotapoet says:

At 2:12 in this video i was confused by the video and dialog that the WAN port had nothing plugged into it. That confused[confuses] me. Also, in other video i have longer message with questions about satellite units and if it matters what port the ethernet is plugged into? And, also if it matters if you plug SWITCHES into those ports and instead of a direct cable run from the main Google WiFi? IE. Can a Ethernet Cable from from the LAN [Not WAN] port of the main Google Wifi to a SWITCH in another part of the house? And then can a random cable from that SWITCH be plugged into the remote Google WiFi? And does it matter WHICH port that ethernet cable gets plugged into on the Google WiFi? And, as also referred to in my other verbose email. How can you tell via software that you have WIRED vs WIRELESS connections to different units? And have you been able to find an actual Google MANUAL with the advanced issues on these devices? Thanks again for everything. — Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [Professional Poets & Bed Bloggers]

Living Impetus says:

Wouldn’t using an ethernet cable just make it a wireless access point instead of part of a mesh network?

Patrick Madigan says:

I just wanted to say that ‘You are the BEST tech guy on YOUTUBE !!!’. There is noone out there that does it better when it comes to reviewing tech gear. =)

Patrick Novak says:

Lon, my cable service (tv) also provides my isp service. So I have network traffic flowing through my cable modem onto my coax going back to my isp who is also my cable tv provider. How does this work with using that coax to be my internal home network? Is there any interference??? Also, in the instructions I’ve seen re:MoCA, it seems they’re accessing a modem (somehow providing internet service) then going to coax that ~seems~ to be stand-alone separate from that modem. Instructions say connect the modem to the moca via ethernet then coax to the coax-in port on the moca device. Well, the “coax-in” piece is already being used going into the modem. How does this work?

Mark Hadfield says:

Awesome thanks – much appreciated

Rodrigo Teixeira says:

Do I have to use a sepecific ethernet port of google wifi to connect with wire to the main unit or I can use any of the two ports?

JayzBeerz says:

Hey Lon any chance of testing the Samsung Home Connect Pro AC2600?

Robert Young says:

what about a server is it easy to setup a virtual server like i did on cable 3in1 box for Plex so my dad can watch movies at his house?

Tech Talk says:

Your updated video is what sold me on the google wifi. I hard wired all mine and when I tested the mesh it came back with a status of just ok on two of them. Come to find out my switch was only a 10/100…. After I upgraded the switch to a gigabit switch I now show 100% GREAT on all the pods. I can now mow the lawn this summer and my wifi music shouldn’t drop while going around the house. The google wifi gives me full speeds that im paying for, my amped wireless titan 1900 could not.

Gamer007 says:

Wifi is variable to many things, incoming line quality (I added a splitter to lower db power levels on modem to near 0 on my docsis3.0 16 stream capable modem. everyone should check db power level… I previously had to add modem coaxial booster, 6 years later cable company fixed their end and I kept getting booted off every other day til I removed my booster I put on for not having a signal years ago. now all 16 streams near 0 db lvl.) router(have asus 5300rt) placed near center of house away from electronic interference. pay for 100Mbps get 116Mbps at 50 feet away, 16-19ms ping.

when power levels near 10 or -10 you lose a lot of your internet speed. I had 60-8Mbps and dropout connections altogether every few hours sometimes days apart, but mostly every day. if your in negative consider a booster and add splitters and connections to tvs or long runs if needed to lower the power booster. mine was too low before booster and too high with modem coaxial booster alone, adding cable runs and splitters took away the extra high power. something like this can help low power. https://www.amazon.com/4-Port-Cable-Amplifier-Signal-Booster/dp/B0792MVBB3/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1520197442&sr=8-14&keywords=modem+booster

Peter Rivera-Pierola says:

Does hardwiring via MoCA eliminate the seamless handoff benefits of the mesh network? I ask because my current setup connects an AirPort Extreme to an AirPort express via MoCA and although fast, it’s rather inconsistent. Will the Google Wifi solution be better in place of the apple devices?

Elson Ong says:

Hi, just got a set of three Google wifi, will they work as below;
google wifi in living room, study room and bedroom all wire back to switch then to router?

Or must it be router to one google wifi then to switch then to the other two google wifi all by wire?

JJK says:

Awesome. Thanks for including MOCA as part of the review. Plan to do a similar set up in my house.

Of note, MOCA will only work after an amplifier, which many large houses may have. If you’re trying to run through an amplifier it won’t work.

May also require higher frequency splitters.

TheMiner644 ! says:

Hello,
I bought my ethernet to USB adapter about 2 months ago.

When I tried connecting it to my Wii U, it acted like nothing was connected to it. I also tried both ethernet ports from the Google Wifi. But it still had the same reaction.

Any help is appreciated!

tptwk says:

Hello Lon,
I did the same thing. I set up my nodes wirelessly and then connected one of them with hardwire. It all worked well until I had yo reboot my system. It didn’t like the hard wire set up while rebooting. I had to disconnect the hard wire ethernet cable to allow the node to reconnect (kind of a pain). Unfortunately I ended up making that node wireless due to the hassle. Have you find the same problem? Is there a fix?

bam2xl14 says:

Lon do you prefer the google or the orbi

Mark The Prodigy says:

Pretty smart. What I did personally is ran cat5 around the house and then interconnected them using a gigabit switch off the main router that’s connected to the modem.

Marc says:

can you take it to a switch instead of a moca box. I have  two HD surveillance cameras for home security and a smart tv as well.

rudy ruiz says:

Thanks for the video. To be able to run it using the MoCa, then one would have to buy single Google Wifi’s for each place you want to place them? I noticed that the 3 pack wifi only contains one unit that can be connected to ethernet.

Vik Sharma says:

Hey Lon, I’ve got four Google WiFi AP’s setup, 3 of them via MOCA but only 1 of them shows in the Google WiFi app that it’s connected via “wired” connection. The rest of them say wireless (except the one connected to my modem). And when I do a mesh test I only get “fair” as the result, never “good”. Am I missing a step here?

Bashawnn Holmes says:

Do u need wifi for google wifi or it comes with it

Matt Donnelly says:

Hi Lon, my son and I have just connected our 3 Google WiFi units over ethernet, the Google WiFi app has it at around 280mbps.

We noticed you doing a test outside of the app, hoping you can advise us on how to get an accurate reading. We have used Lan speed test for windows, not sure if the device’s sending and receiving are slowing down the results.

Thanks in advance.
Matt

David maclean says:

If I create a mesh network consisting of 2 onhubs, will the lan port on the secondary point work for my gaming pc?

Chris Mac says:

Doesn’t work for me over Ethernet…..no difference.

K Williams says:

Is there a way to confirm within the app that a node is on ethernet?

David Hirsch says:

I tried MOCA with google WIFI and speed is exactly what I pay my ISP for. Thank you for your video. My power line adapters have been donated to co worker. MOCA is 100% better than power line adapter

cisko213 says:

Could you possibly connect your computer with that spare ethernet port while still broadcasting wifi? That way  your computer is hard wired while you still have the mesh wifi

Tony Schwartz says:

Does this configuration work?

ISP modem
——– switch —– google wifi 1
———– google wifi 2
———— google wifi 3

If so, is that done by connecting the google wifi devices up to the switch via the “lan port” on the google wifis?
And also, if so, are all clients on the network described above doing dhcp to the “ISP modem”? and they’re all on the same subnet?

Thank you!
Tony

PierreEXM says:

Very interesting video. Very helpful. Thank you.

Jay S says:

Could I use three MOCA adapters for all three mesh-points, running them on a single frequency?

philip dias says:

You must like pain… Lol. Run ethernet everywhere and use these as AP points. I use ac1900 routers with ddwrt for that. Main router is a pc running pfsense. Wired always trumps wireless.

Fred Zlotnick says:

Have you tried Powerline for the back-haul?

dojmike says:

Can one simply attach a PC to the remote node with an Ethernet cable to get an Internet signal to that PC? I am not that concerned with speed and am willing to accept the wireless signal speed, but the other PC has no WiFi capability, only Ethernet.

Charlie Hein says:

Believe me, I’m all for wired connections but isn’t the bottleneck (by far) the gateway and the internet bandwidth promised/delivered by the ISP? These tweeks in this video would then be useful for continuity of service and local traffic like printing.

Hugo G says:

I am trying to set up but i am having problems The router that i have right now is connected to my computer and my cable modem i connect one cable from my modem to my router and the other one from my router to my computer and it works but when I tried the connect the google router won’t work at all I won’t connect I need help

Bluupz Bluupz says:

This seems overly complicated for something that’s supposed to be wireless and fast…

Jason Hwnry says:

Does it support POE? Can you ceiling mount them?

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